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Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Fri 17 Jun, 2016 10:58 am
by berni
As you may have noticed, the cave (Höhle) applet on CrocoPuzzle has slightly different rules compared to international standard. The difference is, that international 2x2 areas inside the cave are allowed while it is forbidden on CP. To address this issue I'd like to rename the puzzle type on CP. In german it'll be "Enge Höhle" which I'm unsure how I should translate it into english. What do you think, is "narrow cave" or "tight cave" better? Or something completely different?

Thanks for you help!

Re: Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Fri 17 Jun, 2016 5:47 pm
by PuzzleScot
I'd suggest 'narrow cave' from those choices. 'Tunnels' might be a better choice, if that's not used by some other type?

Re: Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Sat 18 Jun, 2016 6:44 am
by Mephisto
"Tunnel" ist already used for another pozzle type ("Snake" in the englich speaking world). However, the original name by Nikoli for "Cave" is "Bag", so why not use "Bag" instead of "Cave"? ;-)

And, btw, another name used for "Cave" in the English speaking world is "Corral". Why not use that?

And, btw2, any attempt to make puzzle names unanbiguous will fail, there are much too many ambiguous names already out there, and there is no naming control instance.

Re: Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Sat 18 Jun, 2016 7:05 am
by berni
PuzzleScot wrote:I'd suggest 'narrow cave' from those choices.
That was my first instinct too, but well instinct is sometimes missleading in a foreign language. I also prefere narrow over tight, because the later might cause confusion with tight-fit-puzzles. (Sidenote: Can one imagine a tight-fit-cave?!?)

Thanks for your help!

Re: Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Sat 18 Jun, 2016 10:32 am
by Mephisto
Bag is now colled Cave, so the original name is free and Bag can be used for Höhle ...
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Re: Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Sat 18 Jun, 2016 12:51 pm
by sknight
"Narrow" definitely seems preferable to "tight".
I think when this issue first cropped up, "Corridors" was suggested for the narrow cave variant, and that still seems good (though not a direct translation of the German).
"Twisty Passages" would be a fun reference for those of us old fogies who used to play text adventures.

Re: Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Sat 18 Jun, 2016 1:33 pm
by PuzzleScot
Mephisto wrote: Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long years
Stole many a man's soul and faith
Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you Is the nature of my game

Re: Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Sat 18 Jun, 2016 4:33 pm
by berni
sknight wrote:I think when this issue first cropped up, "Corridors" was suggested for the narrow cave variant, and that still seems good (though not a direct translation of the German).
Yes, indeed, "corridors" sounds good. (But I think, I can remember a different puzzle with that name.) Anyway, meanwhile I've decided to use "narrow cave".

Re: Narrow cave or tight cave?

Posted: Sat 18 Jun, 2016 7:34 pm
by uvo
Roland invented a puzzle type he named corridors:

http://www.logic-masters.de/Wettbewerbe ... g=en&id=44

With some minor changes (regarding the sizes of the regions) it was used in the WPC 2013.