Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

For the discussion of daily/weekly puzzles.
dickoon
Posts: 612
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 12:52 pm
Location: Stockton-on-Tees, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sun 17 Apr, 2011 7:11 pm

The results of extra time: puzzlemad 2 dickoon 0. Well done, Liane!

The fourth week's matches are as follows:

CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
detuned (C) vs. rodders
Winner becomes (or remains) champion and defends the championship next week, loser descends to the #1 contender match next week.

#1 CONTENDER MATCH
drsteve vs. ronaldx
Winner becomes #1 contender and gets a championship match next week, loser descends to the #2 contender match next week.

#2 CONTENDER MATCH
afcwarren vs. puzzlemad
Winner becomes #2 contender and gets a #1 contender match next week, loser descends to the relegation match next week.

RELEGATION MATCH
PuzzleScot vs. dickoon (or anyone else joining from the waiting list)
Winner survives and gets a #2 contender match next week, loser relegated from the ladder and replaced by whoever's at the top of the waiting list.

Three new matches and one rematch - but the score last time was puzzlemad 4 afcwarren 6 and it's always going to be a competitive and interesting match.

As ever, if you know in advance that you won't be able to take part on any particular weekday, please speak up in advance (ideally the weekend beforehand, but I'll take what I can get, and will try to be flexible about the Bank Holiday) and book yourself one or two bye days.

ronald
Posts: 58
Joined: Tue 08 Mar, 2011 1:22 pm

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by ronald » Sun 17 Apr, 2011 8:24 pm

That #1 Contender Match is a tough matchup... with high stakes! Good luck this week drsteve!

drsteve
Posts: 722
Joined: Sun 27 Jun, 2010 7:23 am

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 8:03 am

Thanks for that, Ronald. Good luck to you too.

afcwarren
Posts: 27
Joined: Wed 27 Oct, 2010 12:18 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by afcwarren » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 8:43 am

If I win this week and lose next week, can I change my name to yo-yo?

afcwarren
Posts: 27
Joined: Wed 27 Oct, 2010 12:18 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by afcwarren » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:03 am

Can I please request a bye day on Friday this week?

Looking further ahead, I doubt very much that I'll be able to do many puzzles in the 25-29 April week so I would back any motion to suspend the league for a week :D

dickoon
Posts: 612
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 12:52 pm
Location: Stockton-on-Tees, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Mon 18 Apr, 2011 5:31 pm

afcwarren wrote:Can I please request a bye day on Friday this week?
Granted! Thanks for giving lots of notice.
Looking further ahead, I doubt very much that I'll be able to do many puzzles in the 25-29 April week so I would back any motion to suspend the league for a week :D
Anybody else? I'll definitely suspend the league if three people know that they're going to be Easter-y (and, I suppose, wedding-y) all next week.

drsteve
Posts: 722
Joined: Sun 27 Jun, 2010 7:23 am

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 8:40 am

I'll be fairly tied up next week as well so I'd second (or third) a suspension for 24th to 29th
Steve

dickoon
Posts: 612
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 12:52 pm
Location: Stockton-on-Tees, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Tue 19 Apr, 2011 7:56 pm

OK, good enough for me. Week off next week.

rodders
Posts: 65
Joined: Tue 02 Nov, 2010 1:41 pm

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by rodders » Wed 20 Apr, 2011 3:32 pm

Well, I think the rest of this week for me is all about trying to avoid a whitewash! Well played Tom, and sorry I didn't give you a better match. A couple of close puzzles (although I note on one puzzle, you had technical problems, had to do it twice and still beat me by 2 seconds!), but I've fehlversuch'd my way to a big loss. Must do my best tomorrow and Friday to make the scoreline look respectable ....

detuned
Posts: 1616
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 2:25 pm
Location: London, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by detuned » Wed 20 Apr, 2011 5:54 pm

As always, I hadn't really been keeping track (I tend to do the puzzles as they come out at 10/11pm). If it's really currently 6-0, that comes as a bit of a shock to me because my croco rating has appeared to hit (what I hope is only temporarily :roll: ) a plateau recently. The way I've been going recently I should think that avoiding any more fehlvers will eliminate any possibility of a whitewash!

dickoon
Posts: 612
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 12:52 pm
Location: Stockton-on-Tees, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 4:34 pm

Here are the results of the fifth week of the UK croco-puzzle ladder:

Code: Select all

                    | detuned   rodders | drsteve   ronaldx | afcwarren   puzzlemad | PuzzleScot   dickoon |
Monday              |                   |                   |                       |                      |
Heyawake            | 01:14     01:16   | 00:42     00:44   | 00:49       08:03     | 9999:59      01:21   |
U-Bahn              | 04:16     10:04   | 02:05     04:29   | 9999:59     14:19     | 9999:59      16:46   |
Tuesday             |                   |                   |                       |                      |
Tapa                | 07:49     24:24   | 02:39     03:24   | 03:26       19:00     | 9999:59      16:24   |
Hochhäuser          | 22:12     22:30   | 07:37     18:58   | 31:54       58:22     | 9999:59      9999:59 |
Wednesday           |                   |                   |                       |                      |
Laser               | 21:05     61:19   | 36:28     69:24   | 9999:59     73:53     | 9999:59      9999:59 |
Magisches Labyrinth | 05:17     07:52   | 08:58     06:43   | 13:48       21:57     | 9999:59      07:07   |
Thursday            |                   |                   |                       |                      |
Japanische Summen   | 03:49     04:20   | 04:04     04:53   | 06:13       11:18     | 9999:59      07:44   |
Hitori              | 02:31     06:51   | 13:03     02:41   | 03:46       10:34     | 9999:59      05:25   |
Friday              |                   |                   |                       |                      |
Tapa                | 06:46     09:57   | 08:08     04:07   | --------------------- | 9999:59      14:01   |
Killersudoku        | 00:58     01:14   | 03:03     02:12   | --------------------- | 9999:59      02:37   |
FINAL SCORE         | 10        0       | 6         4       | 6           2         | 0            8       |
I have added some scoring logic to my spreadsheet - so, as ever, errors and omissions are excepted, but will have come from a different source to usual. This gives final scores of

detuned 10 rodders 0
drsteve 6 ronaldx 4
afcwarren 6 puzzlemad 2 (Friday's results ignored due to bye day request)
dickoon w/o PuzzleScot

Congratulations to the winners, and particularly to Tom on his successful championship defence! As discussed, we shall be taking a week off so no ladder matches next week.

ronald
Posts: 58
Joined: Tue 08 Mar, 2011 1:22 pm

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by ronald » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 10:39 pm

Nice work drsteve! at some point I thought you might whitewash me!

have a happy easter everyone :)

drsteve
Posts: 722
Joined: Sun 27 Jun, 2010 7:23 am

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Sun 24 Apr, 2011 8:31 am

ronald wrote:Nice work drsteve! at some point I thought you might whitewash me!

have a happy easter everyone :)
YEah, the week started well, and then deteriorated (partly due to a wonky mouse on my parents-in-law's computer but mostly due to incompetence. Well, played, Ronald - look forward to the inevitable rematch.

dickoon
Posts: 612
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 12:52 pm
Location: Stockton-on-Tees, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sun 01 May, 2011 9:34 pm

The sixth week's matches are as follows:

CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
detuned (C) vs. drsteve
Winner becomes (or remains) champion and defends the championship next week, loser descends to the #1 contender match next week.

#1 CONTENDER MATCH
rodders vs. afcwarren
Winner becomes #1 contender and gets a championship match next week, loser descends to the #2 contender match next week.

#2 CONTENDER MATCH
ronaldx vs. dickoon
Winner becomes #2 contender and gets a #1 contender match next week, loser descends to the relegation match next week.

RELEGATION MATCH
puzzlemad vs. PuzzleScot
Winner survives and gets a #2 contender match next week, loser relegated from the ladder and replaced by whoever's at the top of the waiting list.

Three matches which promise to be very exciting, two of which have exciting history already, and one match in which I will try very hard to get on the board. :D

As ever, if you know in advance that you won't be able to take part on any particular weekday, please speak up as far in advance as you can and book yourself one or two bye days.

detuned
Posts: 1616
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 2:25 pm
Location: London, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by detuned » Mon 02 May, 2011 9:18 pm

I really didn't need that silly Fehlver on the thermometers - I'd have had you there Steve by a couple of seconds :(

drsteve
Posts: 722
Joined: Sun 27 Jun, 2010 7:23 am

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Tue 03 May, 2011 5:35 am

detuned wrote:I really didn't need that silly Fehlver on the thermometers - I'd have had you there Steve by a couple of seconds :(
Yeah, I've fallen prey to that pesky "getting the answer right" rule before :D

Just kidding - I'm still cross with myself over my magnets score yesterday - 2 Fehlvers and a rubbish time, and that's supposed to be a puzzle I'm good at!

Now, let's see if I can catch Alan on the ratings list...

PuzzleScot
Site Admin
Posts: 2687
Joined: Fri 18 Jun, 2010 10:45 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by PuzzleScot » Tue 03 May, 2011 10:50 am

drsteve wrote:Now, let's see if I can catch Alan on the ratings list...
Shouldn't be hard - Disappointingly, I've not moved since March!

drsteve
Posts: 722
Joined: Sun 27 Jun, 2010 7:23 am

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Fri 06 May, 2011 6:16 am

Think that makes it a draw between me and Tom C.

Think I made up for your Thermometer fluff with my Japan Sums today - must have hit the 2 rather than the 5 at the last entry without noticing - it was a bloody good time, too...

OK, tie-break! (I think)

detuned
Posts: 1616
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 2:25 pm
Location: London, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by detuned » Fri 06 May, 2011 9:35 am

I've got no idea of the score, but I will be happy if I've manage to salvage a draw this week (despite having a couple of decent one-off times). That thermometers fehlver was particularly annoying, as that tends to be a good type for me. Hopeully I;ve got them all out my system for the tie-break!

On an unrelated note, they haven't had any sudoku on croco for a while have they? :roll:

drsteve
Posts: 722
Joined: Sun 27 Jun, 2010 7:23 am

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Fri 06 May, 2011 10:04 am

detuned wrote:I've got no idea of the score, but I will be happy if I've manage to salvage a draw this week (despite having a couple of decent one-off times). That thermometers fehlver was particularly annoying, as that tends to be a good type for me. Hopeully I;ve got them all out my system for the tie-break!

On an unrelated note, they haven't had any sudoku on croco for a while have they? :roll:
Trying to psych me out? There was an inequality one the other week.
I just hope there's no Heyawake tomorrow.

detuned
Posts: 1616
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 2:25 pm
Location: London, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by detuned » Fri 06 May, 2011 11:54 am

No, nothing like that, it's just that I think I've made 3 errors this week which is pretty bad even by my standards - I'm just happy to still be in this! I think (as we've mentioned before) it's going to come down to luck of the draw. Some types definitely favour you, and some are better for me...

dickoon
Posts: 612
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 12:52 pm
Location: Stockton-on-Tees, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Fri 06 May, 2011 7:58 pm

Here are the results of the sixth week of the UK croco-puzzle ladder:

Code: Select all

                    | detuned   drsteve | rodders   afcwarren | ronaldx   dickoon | puzzlemad   PuzzleScot |
Monday              |                   |                     |                   |                        |
Magnetplattenrätsel | 14:01     40:56   | 22:42     9999:59   | 06:36     14:59   | 14:13       35:55      |
Pyramidenrätsel     | 00:19     00:17   | 00:24     00:56     | 00:17     00:20   | 00:56       00:23      |
Tuesday             |                   |                     |                   |                        |
Doppelstern         | 10:16     03:54   | 20:01     9999:59   | 08:31     05:17   | 09:01       08:49      |
Thermometer         | 07:50     02:50   | 04:02     06:05     | 10:33     05:13   | 04:59       03:11      |
Wednesday           |                   |                     |                   |                        |
Magnetplattenrätsel | 24:03     08:31   | 05:54     09:10     | 09:15     17:41   | 06:38       12:56      |
Magisches Labyrinth | 00:23     00:56   | 00:58     00:28     | 00:49     00:49   | 01:15       01:27      |
Thursday            |                   |                     |                   |                        |
Doppelstern         | 02:20     01:11   | 02:03     02:50     | 01:24     04:30   | 03:10       07:00      |
Doppel Block        | 02:47     04:10   | 05:12     09:17     | 03:18     07:32   | 06:28       10:31      |
Friday              |                   |                     |                   |                        |
Japanische Summen   | 03:25     07:40   | 04:35     07:28     | 03:15     03:33   | 04:36       10:22      |
Heyawake            | 01:22     04:11   | 07:42     05:10     | 13:00     05:31   | 04:42       08:22      |
FINAL SCORE         | 5         5       | 8         2         | 6         3       | 7           3          |
So, indeed, the championship match does go to a tie-breaker! How exciting. Tomorrow's results will determine our champion - and if tomorrow's play is inconclusive, we add together all the competitors' times, including five-minute Fehlversuch penalties, and let that decide. Another ladder curiosity: the first score-draw daily result, when both Ronald and I took exactly 49 seconds on Wednesday's Magic Labyrinth.

Congratulations to the winners! I will update with next week's matches as soon as we know them for sure. If anyone eligible wants to join the ladder, please speak up now. If anyone wants to book one or two bye days for next week, please also speak up as soon as possible.

drsteve
Posts: 722
Joined: Sun 27 Jun, 2010 7:23 am

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Fri 06 May, 2011 9:26 pm

Out of curiosity, if the Saturday tie-break is drawn, is the next tie-break the sum of the Saturday times or the sum of the whole week's times?

dickoon
Posts: 612
Joined: Mon 21 Jun, 2010 12:52 pm
Location: Stockton-on-Tees, UK
Contact:

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sat 07 May, 2011 10:29 am

drsteve wrote:Out of curiosity, if the Saturday tie-break is drawn, is the next tie-break the sum of the Saturday times or the sum of the whole week's times?
Hmm, I can see that it wasn't explicitly written in the rules in the first place. Implicitly, in the same way as the result of a match that ends 6-6 is derived from the whole week's results - just it's a six-day week, instead of a five-day week - I would add together the times from all the six-day week's puzzles, if required. (I haven't added the times from the first five days' results to see whether someone has a big head start or not.)

drsteve
Posts: 722
Joined: Sun 27 Jun, 2010 7:23 am

Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Sat 07 May, 2011 11:55 am

Well, it's not relevant, as Tom beat me in both today.

Just for info, though - there was only 13 seconds total difference between our overall five day times...

Post Reply