Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by kiwijam » Mon 17 Oct, 2011 10:50 pm

Great work Alan, I can see this being useful during the week to find out what's going on!
One small suggestion is if you can highlight the scores for the week's 4 match-ups, then we can see how each of the matches is progressing.
Also a question: does it require a person to update the data (once per day), or can it do that itself automatically?

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by PuzzleScot » Tue 18 Oct, 2011 9:04 am

Thanks. I kept looking to see how I'd done against a.n.other in a given week, and it wasn't easy, so wrote this for myself really.
kiwijam wrote:does it require a person to update the data (once per day), or can it do that itself automatically?
Nobody needs to update it. Whenever anyone visits the main page, the first thing it does is check the croco high-scores, and updates my databases as necessary. If you're looking at historical data, it doesn't do this, to save unnecessary lookups on croco's server. ( link again, since we're on a new page )

[edit:] matches are now highlighted. Needs to be manually set in a table at the start of each week.
Not so easy to implement byes, so wysiwyg!

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by PuzzleScot » Wed 19 Oct, 2011 10:10 pm

Yeeeeeesssss! I achieved my only realistic goal for the week - AVOID BEING WHITEWASHED! Sorry to spoil your scoresheet Tom ;)

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by detuned » Wed 19 Oct, 2011 11:06 pm

Curses - if only I'd rushed straight to testen instead of having a quick check first :roll: ! Actually, as a slightly more serious point I still find the tents interface a little disconcerting as I much prefer to link tents to trees with a line solving on paper, rather than have to manually cross out the trees once I know they've been done. I don't quite seem to have the ability to store this information in my head. Ditto this actually and things like heyawake and star battle where I still find it useful to dot in definitely "blank" squares.

Anyway, I was curious to see how common whitewashes were, and had a play with your excellent script there Alan. In fairness there seem to be very few 10-0's where both people have played all 10 puzzles!

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Fri 21 Oct, 2011 6:41 am

Excellent match this week - well played James. I think at least four of the matches came down to a matter of seconds.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Fri 21 Oct, 2011 9:46 pm

In a rush, so I'm going to crib from Alan's page for now:

kiwijam 6 drsteve 4
ronaldx 7 oenomel 3
detuned 8 PuzzleScot 2
rodders 4 dickoon 6

More ASAP!

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sat 22 Oct, 2011 1:32 pm

Still in a rush. Next week's fixtures are:

kiwijam - ronaldx
detuned - drsteve
dickoon - oenomel
PuzzleScot - afcwarren

Waiting list: puzzlemad, erika, rodders

If anyone wants to join the list, or at maybe even just get their croco-puzzle performances up on Alan's big board, please speak up. Likewise, please request byes ASAP.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by nickdeller » Sat 22 Oct, 2011 3:17 pm

Unavailable next Saturday, so count this as a request for a total-time tie-break after Friday's puzzles if necessary.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sun 30 Oct, 2011 9:03 pm

kiwijam 9 ronaldx 1
detuned 3 drsteve 7
dickoon 0 oenomel 10
PuzzleScot 4 afcwarren 6

All courtesy of Alan's page! This will let you score up any hypothetical match you like.

Next week:

kiwijam - drsteve
ronaldx - oenomel
afcwarren - detuned
dickoon - puzzlemad

Waiting list: erika, rodders, PuzzleScot

Week after that will be off as everyone's off to Eger. :)

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Mon 31 Oct, 2011 6:33 am

Well, looking at the current High Score Table for today, James can have today's matches for free if he finishes them, as I don't have 45 minutes (minimum) to spend on Croc.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by afcwarren » Mon 31 Oct, 2011 9:48 am

Ouch. Not sure how this will work with my lunch 'hour'. It was a tough enough draw as it was!

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by kiwijam » Tue 01 Nov, 2011 12:16 am

If only I'd read your message before doing the puzzles, Steve, I would have happily skipped my worst puzzle-type too (and avoided the inevitable -4).
And as for "everyone's off to Eger", alas I wish it were true...

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by drsteve » Tue 01 Nov, 2011 7:07 am

kiwijam wrote:If only I'd read your message before doing the puzzles, Steve, I would have happily skipped my worst puzzle-type too (and avoided the inevitable -4).
And as for "everyone's off to Eger", alas I wish it were true...
Ditto... It looks like a lovely set of puzzles. Alas, work has to come first for me. Fingers crossed for next year.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by kiwijam » Sat 05 Nov, 2011 4:26 am

It amuses me that the top three puzzlers in the last couple of weeks all got an identical time on Thursday's puzzle two - and were comfortably beaten by 5 of the other 6 UK times for that puzzle.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by nickdeller » Sat 05 Nov, 2011 11:40 am

By my reckoning, 8 of the 11 uk-crocs have solved today's Bahnhofe so far, and everyone's in the top 56 of the 216 completed solves as I write. Is that as well as we've ever collectively done on a given puzzle, do you suppose? Well done everyone!

Oh, and congrats to ronaldx - the target you set me in the tiebreaker today under pressure was some distance beyond my capabilities and would have given nearly everybody a problem! :-)

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by PuzzleScot » Sat 05 Nov, 2011 12:38 pm

Sorry guys - I forgot to set up the active matches table for this week. Done now.
Remarkable result on Thursday with 3 tied! It would be amazing to see all 3 solves side-by side on video. Puts a new twist on "Great minds think alike"!

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sat 05 Nov, 2011 8:52 pm

kiwijam 5 drsteve 4 (and one tie!)
ronaldx 7 oenomel 5 after extra time
afcwarren 3 detuned 7
dickoon 1 puzzlemad 9

Congratulations to the winners!

Croco-Puzzle ladder service will resume after a week's break for the biggest puzzle contest of them all.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by kiwijam » Sun 06 Nov, 2011 8:47 pm

Just a quick confirmation (as I've only been half-paying attention and want to double-check): There are no croco-puzzle matches this week, we will resume on Monday Nov 14th.

Oh, and to those of you who are unfortunately unable to croco this week, my commiserations. We'll try not to have too much fun with our two puzzles per day... ;)
(PS Good luck!)

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sun 06 Nov, 2011 9:45 pm

Quite correct; no ladder matches this week.

I reckon Alan's page will keep tracking the scores, though, so if anyone wants a friendly that won't impact the ladder then you can look at the result yourself.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by puzzlemad » Fri 11 Nov, 2011 10:00 pm

Can I claim a bye on Monday please as I'll be in the midst of the 24hr. Hopefully I should get back early enough on Tuesday evening and be awake enough to do those.
Thanks,
Liane

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Fri 11 Nov, 2011 10:21 pm

Absolutely! Best reason ever. :-)

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Sun 13 Nov, 2011 9:46 pm

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, domestic competition resumes. Byes are available as ever.

kiwijam - ronaldx
detuned - drsteve
oenomel - puzzlemad
afcwarren - erika

Waiting list: rodders, PuzzleScot, dickoon.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by nickdeller » Tue 15 Nov, 2011 11:56 pm

May I retrospectively request Tuesday as a bye day as a courtesy to Liane, Chris? It looks like the "hopefully" from the Monday bye request didn't come to fruition, and it seems unfair for me to claim ladder points from the day in the circumstances.

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by dickoon » Wed 16 Nov, 2011 8:19 am

Very good call; thanks, Nick!

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Re: Any interest in a UK croco-puzzle ladder?

Post by puzzlemad » Wed 16 Nov, 2011 5:33 pm

Thanks Nick for that. The flight home was delayed by 2 hours, so landed at Manchester at 9.30pm, got the bag, got the ticket at the train station at 9.58pm, ran to the 10pm train, got the 10.30 bus from Manchester and eventually arrived home at 11.20pm, dumped the bags and went to bed. Done one of today's but no time for the other one but that's my problem! Back into the swing of it on Thursday.

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